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Old 06-24-2008, 10:44 PM   #1
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This sweet 97 GTS Viper was donated by Justin for us to design new products off of. As a result of his patience and trust I think we may have one of the best installs we have done. You tell me...

This install took well over 40 hours with two people working on it. By the pictures you will have no idea of the time..

*The system includes.
*Custom Nitrous Outlet dual plate system.
*Dual 15 lb bottles.
*Custom bottle mount.
*Dual Bottle Heaters.
*Wired for dual remote openers to be added later.
*Custom switch panel.
* Nitrous Outlet Dedicated fuel system.
*Big show purge system with exit out of scoop.
*Trick V and P gauges.






Once the car was droped off the first thing we did was rip it apart and design our plates. These pictures are during mock up of the first article.



Removing the ashtray area to design a custom switch panel.

While we were at it we went ahead and started taking everything out for the install.





Now that we have the plate mock up done and the console taken apart for the switch panel we can start mounting the bottles while we are finishing up the plates.
Justin wanted to be able to remove the entire rear part of the system and have availability to his trunk area in a matter of a minute. To accomplish this we made a cardboard pattern of the bottle mount we wanted. We then traced it onto a sheet of plywood and cut the plywood to fit. The plywood is cut on a 45 degree angle on the top for a clean fit.



Time to Carpet the board.

Went ahead and mounted the Nitrous Outlet dedicated fuel system.
We used pop ribbits instead of self taping screws since they look much better.

After getting the dedicated mounted we decided to go ahead and test fit the pillar pod with the Trick Performance V & P Gauges. We had a concern that all the wires from the gauges would be to bulky and cause a fitment issue. During test fitment we discovered the wiring harness for the gauges had enough wire to route the wiring anywhere you need to go before making connections. The number of wires were no issue and you could not ask for anything better. We did run into a fitment issue with the pillar pod. The edge of the top of the dash was hitting on the face of the pillar pod and could not pull in far enough to bolt up. Simply taking a cutting wheel and cuting a slot in the face of the pod let the dash insert right back into place for a perfect looking fit.



We have finished the dual plate design and ready to get them on the car. Notice the two plates and solenoids are all one unit. In these pictures you will see the Nitrous and Big show purge solenoid up top and the fuel solenoid is lower and sideways.

After making sure they fit we went ahead and prewired the solenoids to a weather pack connector that will be mounted to the driverside inner fender. This way in the event Justin needs to remove the plates all he has to do is unplug the wiring and then simply plug them back in to reinstall.

We went ahead and wired in the Nitrous Outlet dedicated fuel system. The dedicated has a ground wire that grounds the tank unfortintly we did not get this part in the pictures. The dedicated fuel system comes with all the fittings and 6an fuel hose needed for the install. We cut to fit the hose and installed the ends. The regulater used with the dedicated has an option of switching out the inner spring so that you can set the system up to be used with high or low fuel pressure. We used the high pressure spring since we are going to go with high pressure jetting. We added a Nitrous Express high pressure fuel pressure gauge. The gauge and the pressure switch for the Trick gauge share the same manafold connected to the fuel solenoid.


Since everything upfront is finished up we went ahead and mounted the cold air back into place and set up the purge. There is a 3ft 3 an hose running from the exit port on the big show purge solenoid to the bottom of the air box. I drilled a hole through the bottom of the air box and used an assortment of fittings and hard line to have a dual exit purge out of the air scoop in the hood. This custom set up does not interfere with opening and closing the hood.


We now have the custom switch panels built. We sent all but one to be annodized and etched for resale. We are going to go ahead and used the one we kept to finish the install and then switch the unfinished one with one of the finished units when they come back. Before installation we went ahead and prewired the switch panel for install. The wire harness is long enough to route through the console area under the dash on the drivers side. Once it is in place and routed a weather pack connector will be added to the harness for easy removal.


In order to be able to run the harness for the switch panel we had to drill two holes in the body part of the console. There was already one hole there. We drilled a hole in the side of the ashtray slot and then one on the other side so the harness could feed through.



Once the holes were drilled we routed the harness through and installed the console back in place.








We have now come to a point of running the wiring through out the car. We are mounting the relays and fuses for the system, dedicated, and big show purge in the access panel at the PCM.



Next we wired the switch panel harness with weather pack connectors and installed a fuse box for the trick gauges and FJO wide band. The fuse panel is mounted right under the steering wheel behind the access panel. There is actually a perfect spot left wide open from the factory.




The Trick gauges and switch panel wiring all comes into one harness under the dash at the kick panel. From this point we will split the wiring that goes to the back of the car and the wiring that goes to the access panel at the front of the car.
(This picture is before we finished looming and taping the wires for protection)


We decided to drill a new hole through the kick panel to route the wiring through feeding the front of the car.
We suggest routing this wiring through a rubber gourmet and silicone the area for a weather tight seal when finished.


Notice where we mounted the FJO wide band.


Stay tuned.. More to come..
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Re: Justin's 97 GTS Viper
Old 06-25-2008, 04:40 AM   #2
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looks kind of half assed..........not really. that looks great top notch as always. i would not expect anything less.
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Re: Justin's 97 GTS Viper
Old 06-25-2008, 06:51 AM   #3
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I really need to take the hood off and do a good cleaning in that engine bay one weekend.
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Old 06-27-2008, 09:00 PM   #4
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Nice car man !!!!!



Why a completly seperate fuel system? Isnt it gonna be a PITA to keep an eye on the fuel level and fill ups?
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Old 06-28-2008, 10:59 AM   #5
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Nice car man !!!!!



Why a completly seperate fuel system? Isnt it gonna be a PITA to keep an eye on the fuel level and fill ups?
It's not hard to do with a car because you're only using it on the drag strip. It's not going to be running all the time. Additionally, you get the ability to fine tune your system better for a proper air fuel mixture if you use a low pressure fuel pump on your standalone.
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Old 06-29-2008, 08:01 PM   #6
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Just added some more pics
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Old 06-29-2008, 08:03 PM   #7
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Nice car man !!!!!



Why a completly seperate fuel system? Isnt it gonna be a PITA to keep an eye on the fuel level and fill ups?
The dedicated gives you the ability to support more HP with ease. You can run race gas in the dedicated and pump gas in your regular gas tank. The fuel in the dedicated will outlast the nitrous bottles.

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Old 06-29-2008, 09:02 PM   #8
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I thought about the race gas thing about 10 seconds after I posted lol


As long as you keep an eye on the fuel it seems like a bitchin idea.
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Old 07-03-2008, 08:26 AM   #9
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I have used the dedicated fuel systems for years, They do not consume the gas as fast as you would think. Normally the tank will out last the bottles.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:40 PM   #10
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Old 08-13-2008, 10:11 PM   #11
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Next we pulled the wiring through the kick panel to connect to the wiring in the front of the car.


We connected to the PCM for Tach signal and TPS signal. I will disclose what wires we used in the final paragraph.



We pulled battery hot from here.


Once we had all the wiring finished up and the wideband wired in we installed the PCM Cover plate.



After all the wiring upfront was finished up we moved to the back of the car for the final steps of wiring.
Since the battery is located behind the drivers rear wheel we got lucky. We pulled the battery hot to feed the relays in the back of the car and connected to a factory ground located on the cars tubular supprt behind the seats.
We pulled the hot wires through a factory gromet located on the rivers side.


All the wiring to the back was put on weather pack connectors so that we could easily remove the entire bottle wet up with the accessories attached.




Now that we have everything wired we ran the main feed line. Normally this is done during the process of mounting everything. However I had touched the main feed on a battery positive burning a hole in it. So we had to get a new main feed line and start over.

We found that the best way of running the main feed line was by running it under the intake manafold and then coming out at the firewall and running it over to the passenger side and drilling a hole in the firewall on the bottom left. We put a rubber gromet there and ran the main feed line through. Once through the firewall we Ran the feed line up under the passenger side kick panel and up through the rear plastic behind the passenger seat. (Cover the ends of the main feed line with masking tape to keep trash out)

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Old 08-13-2008, 10:51 PM   #12
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At this point we have the back of the car finished. We prewired the back for remote bottle openers so they can be added at a later date.

Notice we used Black Ano tuff fittings from Earls and -8 braided hose to build the blow down tubes.


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Old 08-14-2008, 12:24 AM   #13
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That looks sexy as hell, nice one guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:58 AM   #14
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Well dave, I just ordered a VEC 3 for the tune on this, and my house is finally starting to get back together after the hurricane.

Going to shoot for sometime late this month or next month to finally tune this POS dodge.
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Old 11-07-2008, 10:57 AM   #15
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Thats what I like to here. I will have that stock intake back ready for you next week. We just built a templant off of it so we have something to refrence back to.
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Old 12-15-2008, 06:40 AM   #16
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Well my vec 3 finally came in on friday.... They messed up on the setup and had to be sent back to get it fixed.....

GRRR I want to spray this thing! Shooting for next month for tuning damnit!
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Old 12-15-2008, 01:49 PM   #17
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Your project has been going on about as long as mine has... At least I managed to get some good news on what was going on with my parts while I was at PRI.

Good luck on getting the tuning done next month!
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Old 12-16-2008, 07:16 AM   #18
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Yeah it's pretty pathetic. I need to get this done so dave can really start pushing this product. I feel like I have let him down.
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Any updates on this project Justin?
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Justin,

Did you get a dyno appointment?
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